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Hannes21

Betreff des Beitrags: Re: Frage zum DA* 16-50

Verfasst: Fr 19. Feb 2016, 10:18

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mika-p hat geschrieben:

...Manche behaupten, das der AF dadurch einen Tucken schneller ist ...

Aber nur bei Vollmond oder Windstille zwischen 12 und 15 Uhr! :d&w:

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mika-p

Betreff des Beitrags: Re: Frage zum DA* 16-50

Verfasst: Fr 19. Feb 2016, 10:19

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RickDangerous

Betreff des Beitrags: Re: Frage zum DA* 16-50

Verfasst: Fr 19. Feb 2016, 10:22

Registriert: So 24. Jan 2016, 14:10
Beiträge: 57

Jay07 hat geschrieben:

Was genau bedeutet denn umprogrammieren und was bringt das?

Die DA-Sternchen besitzen beide Antriebe: Sowohl den neuen SDM als auch den klassischen Stangenantrieb ("screw drive").

Wenn Du sie an einer älteren Kamera bzw. K-10 mit Firmware 1.2 betreibst, laufen die automatisch über den Stangenantrieb.
Bei neueren Kameras bzw. K-10 mit Firmware 1.3 wird automatisch der SDM angesteuert.

"Umprogrammieren" bedeutet, dass man bei dem Objektiv den SDM deaktiviert. Das führt dazu, dass das Objektiv auch bei neueren Kameramodellen mit dem klassischen Stangenantrieb fokussiert.

Google mal nach "pentax disable sdm", da findest Du tausende Beiträge, Tutorials, Videos, ...

Hannes21 hat geschrieben:

Und eine Anfrage bei Ricoh HH wegen Kulanz könnte auch lohnen.

Glaubst Du wirklich, dass man bei einem gebraucht gekauften Objektiv auf Kulanz hoffen kann? :shock:

(Die Frage ist nicht ironisch gemeint!)

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Isidor

Betreff des Beitrags: Re: Frage zum DA* 16-50

Verfasst: Fr 19. Feb 2016, 11:54

Registriert: Do 21. Jan 2016, 18:11
Beiträge: 164
Wohnort: Nähe Bietigheim-Bissingen

@Jay07
Also bei einem online-Händler (ich glaube Düsseldorf) kostet es 1099,00

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Jay07

Betreff des Beitrags: Re: Frage zum DA* 16-50

Verfasst: Fr 19. Feb 2016, 12:40

Registriert: Mi 17. Feb 2016, 22:28
Beiträge: 4
Wohnort: Berlin

Danke für eure Erklärungen hinsichtlich der Umprogrammierung. Diese Möglichkeit war mir bis dato nicht bewusst.

[quote="Isidor"]@Jay07
Also bei einem online-Händler (ich glaube Düsseldorf) kostet es 1099,00[/

Bei einigen Onlinehändkern bekommt man es schon für 899,-.

[quote="Hannes21"][quote="Jay07"]@Isodor:
Das stimmt! Aber dann hat man ein Objektiv mit neuer Platine und neuem Motor und frisch justiert.

Solch neue Objetive sollten eigtl. ebenfalls frisch justiert sein und den/die neueste(n) SDM/Platine im Bauch haben?! Es sei den man erwischt eins von vor der Nachbesserung durch Pentax ..... :ka:

Da wären dann wieder die SN vor/nach Nachbesserung interessant.

Grüsse Jay

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RickDangerous

Betreff des Beitrags: Re: Frage zum DA* 16-50

Verfasst: Fr 19. Feb 2016, 12:51

Registriert: So 24. Jan 2016, 14:10
Beiträge: 57

Auch beim Fachgeschäft hier schräg gegenüber auf der anderen Straßenseite kostet es 899.-.

Generell ist mir aufgefallen, dass Ricoh den Preiskampf unter den Händlern extrem eingedämmt hat. Kameras und Objektive kosten, mit wenigen Ausnahmen, überall ungefähr das selbe, egal welcher Händler, egal ob online oder nicht. Die 3 II, die 35er und 50er Plastikwunder, das 100 Macro, das 12-24 usw. scheinen alle "Einheitspreise" zu haben...

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Deepflights

Betreff des Beitrags: Re: Frage zum DA* 16-50

Verfasst: Fr 19. Feb 2016, 17:11

Registriert: Sa 4. Jul 2015, 08:58
Beiträge: 2066

So, also ich hab es mit der K5IIs versucht und mit der K3II, es geht definitiv NICHT das man das LENSROM (Datei welche im Objektiv gespeichert ist) auslesen oder speichern kann.
Mein einziger Kandidat hier ist die K20D, mit der geht es einwandfrei.

Ich lasse mal für das 16-50 und das 50-135 die Dateiinhalte da (LENSEEP.LNS)
Einfach Textdatei erzeugen und umbenennen, Dateiendungen müssen natürlich sichtbar sein.
Wer nicht weiss wie das geht, der soll gleich die Finger von der Sache lassen.....
Das ist nicht arrogant gemeint, ich hab nur keine Lust hier zu lesen "Jetzt gehts nicht mehr.."

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Jetzt das 50-135:

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Ach ja Hannes

Hannes21 hat geschrieben:

mika-p hat geschrieben:

...Manche behaupten, das der AF dadurch einen Tucken schneller ist ...

Aber nur bei Vollmond oder Windstille zwischen 12 und 15 Uhr! :d&w:

Das 16-50 ist mindestens genau so schnell, hab es grad mal getestet.

Schönes, stangenangetriebenes, WE :lol:

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Da hast Du recht. Wer das machen möchte, MUß sich damit genauer beschäftigen! :ja:

Ich denke, das man die vielen Tuts dazu nicht hier her kopieren muß.

Aber was ich noch wissen möchte, ist das Ausblasen!
Wo wird in den Linsen ausgeblasen?
Und wahrscheinlich mit Druckluft aus der Dose?

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Deepflights

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Mika, ich mach Bilder dazu, versprochen, aber erst nächste Woche, ich mag meine Linsen nicht ungeschützt öffnen, die sind alle staubfrei, ein klein wenig Geduld.

Druckluft aus der Dose würde ich nicht nehmen, ist ein Heliumgemisch das bei Druckänderung sehr kalt wird.

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Alles ok, keine Hektik, vorab schon mal vielen Dank für Deine Mühe! :2thumbs:

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